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The one where the journalist takes a wild journey (Episode 10)
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The one where the journalist takes a wild journey (Episode 10)

How one of the premiere journalists in the country was told he was stupid for pursuing his passion by those he loved most.

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There’s a good chance that we might not have one of the most recognizable names in faith journalism if he would have listened to his detractors.

Billy Hallowell is one of the country’s premier reporters, focusing on issues of faith, politics, and culture. He’s interviewed everyone from the president to leading atheists. He’s also the author of four books. But when he was trying to decide what to do with his life and expressed an interest in journalism, more than one person told him, “that was stupid.”

Luckily for us, Billy didn’t listen.

In Episode 10 of “That Was Stupid,” Billy joins to talk about:

  • His wild journey to the top, including taking a 40% pay cut

  • How he dealt with the doubters

  • His favorite story

  • Listening to God’s voice

  • How someone you might recognize actually helped turbo his career

  • The time he “manifested a demon”

  • And more!

You’ve got to hear these stories!

And if you’re interested, you can read Billy’s work at Faithwire or on his Substack.

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Billy’s bio:

Billy Hallowell is a journalist, commentator and digital TV host who has covered thousands of the biggest faith and culture stories. 

He's written more than 14,000 stories on faith, culture and politics, has interviewed hundreds of celebrities, authors and influencers and is the author of four books (find them here): “Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts,” “The Armageddon Code: One Journalist's Quest for End-Times Answers,” “Fault Line: How a Seismic Shift in Culture Is Threatening Free Speech and Shaping the Next Generation” and “Left Standing: The Miraculous Story of How Mason Wells's Faith Survived the Boston, Paris, and Brussels Terror Attacks.”

Hallowell has worked in the media for more than two decades. He is currently a journalist and host with CBN News and Faithwire and was formerly the director of content and communications at Pure Flix and the former faith and culture editor at TheBlaze. From 2008 until 2009, Hallowell served as the director of content and Chief Executive Officer of VoterWatch, a non-partisan non-profit that focused on issues pertaining to U.S. government transparency. 

Additionally, he is the host and co-host of numerous podcasts, including: The Pure Flix Podcast, The Church Boys, Edifi With Billy Hallowell, The Crazy Happy Podcast and The Christian Post Podcast.

He has contributed to FoxNews.com, The Washington Post, The New York Post, The Christian Post, Human Events, The Daily Caller, Mediaite, and The Huffington Post, among other news sites. 

You can follow Billy on Twitter (@BillyHallowell) and keep up with his work on his own Substack.

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"Dear Jon"
That Was Stupid
Candid conversations on taking chances and proving everyone wrong! A fun, informative, and creative show interviewing leaders, celebrities, influencers, newsmakers, and even regular people about monumental, life-changing decisions that caused everyone at the time to say, "That was stupid."